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Tuesday, January 20, 2009
(ဦး)သိန္းေဖၿမင့္ရဲ႕ နာမည္ၾကီး တက္ဘုန္းၾကီးကိုတတိယအၾကိမ္ေၿမာက္ဖတ္မွပဲဆံုးေအာင္ဖတ္
ႏိုင္ေတာ့တယ္။အရင့္အရင္ေတြတုန္းကငယ္ေသးေတာ့သိပ္ၿပီးမခံစားႏိုင္ဘူး။ဟုတ္ခ်င္မွဟုတ္မွာပါေလလို႔လည္းေတြး၊တကယ့္ပစၥကၡကိုလည္းလက္မခံခ်င္ေတာ့ဆက္ကိုမဖတ္ေတာ့တာ။ ပထမဆံုး
အေခါက္ဖတ္တုန္းက ၈၈ေက်ာင္းပိတ္ရက္။ေနာက္တစ္ေခါက္က်ေတာ့၉၃။ခု ၂၀၀၉..သိပ္မကြာ
ဘူး။ း)ခုလိုအသက္အရြယ္ရလာမွေသခ်ာၿပီးေအာင္ဖတ္ႏိုင္ေတာ့တယ္။
ဖတ္လည္းၿပီးေရာ..သက္ၿပင္းခပ္ၾကီးၾကီးကိုခ်ရင္း..အရင္တည္းကဒီလိုေတြတကယ္ရွိခဲ့တာကိုး..
လို႔ေတြးၿပီးအရင္ကလက္မခံခ်င္ခဲ့တာဘာလို႔လဲလို႔ကိုယ့္ကိုယ္ကိုၿပန္ေမးၾကည့္တယ္။အေၿဖလည္း
မထြက္ဘူး။မထြက္ခ်င္ေယာင္ေဆာင္ေနတာလည္းၿဖစ္ႏိုင္တယ္။ း)
ခုေခတ္မွာလည္းၾကားေနၿမင္ေနရတာပဲ။ ၉၃ တုန္းကဆံုးေအာင္မဖတ္ပဲၿပန္ခ်လိုက္ရတဲ့အေၾကာင္း
ကိုေတာ့သတိရေနတယ္။၁၉၉၀မွာ သထံုၿမသပိတ္ေတာင္မွာအၾကာၾကီးေနခဲ့ဘူးတယ္။အဲဒီမွာ...
တက္ဘုန္းၾကီးထဲကလိုဇာတ္လမ္းမ်ိဳးၾကီးကိုမ်က္ၿမင္ကိုယ္ေတြ႕ၾကီးေတြ႕ ခဲ့ရတာ။ အစကေတာ့
ကိုယ္လည္းမဟုတ္ေလာက္ပါဘူးေတြေတြးၿပီးမ်က္စိစံုမွိတ္ၿငင္းခ်င္ေသးတာ။ေနာက္က်ေတာ့..
တကယ့္ကိုအတိအလင္းယူသြားၾကေလသတည္းဆိုေတာ့မွ...ဘုရားေတြဘာေတြသူတို႔ကို္ယ္စား
တ'ၿပီးမသိသလိုအဲဒါၾကီးကိုေမ့ပစ္လိုက္ကာစမို႔ေလ....။
ခုေတာ့ မေန႔ကတစ္ေန႔လံုးေနမေကာင္းတဲ့ထဲကၿပီးေအာင္ဖတ္လုိက္တာ။ ေက်ာ္ၿငိမ္း လည္းဖတ္
ၿဖစ္တယ္။ ကၽြန္မဒီလာေတာ့ စာအုပ္တစ္ခ်ိဳ႕ယူလာတယ္။(အေလးခံၿပီးသယ္လာတာ၊စာအုပ္ကဒီမွာ
၀ယ္ဖတ္လို႔မရဘူး၊က်န္တာကအကုန္၀ယ္လို႔ရတယ္ေလ..)အဲဒီထဲမွာ သိန္းေဖၿမင့္ကႏွစ္အုပ္ပါ
တယ္။ ႏိုင္၀င္းေဆြကႏွစ္အုပ္ပါတယ္။ မဟူရာေမတၱာက ၿပန္ဖတ္ဖို႔။ ေနာက္တစ္အုပ္..ဘ၀စာမ်က္ႏွာမ်ား ဆိုတာက အတိုေပါင္းစု၊မဖတ္ကိုမဖတ္ဘူးေသးတာ။
အဲဒီထဲမွာေတာ့ႏိုင္၀င္းေဆြရဲ႕ဘ၀ကိုၿမင္သာတဲ့စာမ်က္ႏွာေတာ္ေတာ္မ်ားမ်ားပါတယ္။
ေနာက္ႏွစ္အုပ္က ၿငိမ္းေအးအိမ္..။က်န္တာက ကဗ်ာ
စာအုပ္ေတြနဲ႔ေခတ္ၿပိဳင္တို႔ရဲ႕သတို႔သမီး နဲ႔ ၂၀၀၆ ၿမန္မာ၀တၳဳတိုစုဆိုတဲ့ စာအုပ္ထူၾကီးႏွစ္အုပ္။
ကၽြန္မရဲ႕မေကာင္းတဲ့အက်င့္ကစိတ္မရွည္တာပါ။စာဖတ္လည္းအၿမန္ဖတ္တယ္။ၿပီးရင္ေသခ်ာမမွတ္မိ
ခ်င္ေတာ့ေနာက္တစ္ေခါက္ထပ္ဖတ္ၿဖစ္ေရာ။မ်ားေသာအားၿဖင့္ကေတာ့ကိုယ့္ကိုပထမတစ္ေခါက္မွာ
တည္းကဆြဲေဆာင္ႏိုင္တဲ့စာအုပ္မ်ိဳးကိုပဲဒုတိယအၾကိမ္ၿပန္ဖတ္ၿဖစ္တတ္တယ္။
ကၽြန္မသိန္းေဖၿမင့္ကိုစဖတ္ဘူးတာ အဏၰ၀ါခရီးသည္..ပါ..။ငါးတန္းေလာက္ပဲရွိဦးမယ္။အဲဒီတုန္းက
တည္းကကၽြန္မရဲ႕ထံုးစံအတိုင္း ရွိေနေသးတဲ့ တစ္ခုေသာေရႊရတုသဘင္ ကိုက်ပစ္ထားၿပီးမဖတ္မိပါ
ဘူး။ေနာက္ႏွစ္ေပါင္းမ်ားစြာတိုင္တဲ့ထိအဲဒီစာအုပ္ကိုအဖံုးပဲၾကည့္ၾကည့္ေနလိုက္တာ။ ၁၉၉၈က်ေတာ့
မွပဲဖတ္ၿဖစ္ေတာ့တယ္။ ကြန္ၿမဴနစ္ေတြကစာေရးေကာင္းတယ္လို႔ေၿပာၾကတာၾကားဖူးတယ္။အဲဒါ..
ဘာကိုၾကည့္ၿပီးေၿပာလဲမသိေပမယ့္ေသခ်ာတာကေတာ့ သိန္းေဖၿမင့္ဟာစာေရးအေတာ္ေကာင္းၿပီး
အေတာ္လည္း၀မ္းစာၿပည့္စြာသူမ်ားကိုၿပန္လည္ေ၀ငွႏိုင္တဲ့သူတစ္ေယာက္ပါ။
ထံုးစံအတိုင္းေၿပာခ်င္တာကေနလြဲကုန္ၿပန္ပါၿပီ။ း)
ေက်ာ္ၿငိမ္းကိုဖတ္ေတာ့ (ဦး)ေက်ာ္ၿငိမ္းနဲ႔(ဦး)သိန္းေဖၿမင့္တို႔က သူငယ္ခ်င္းေတြဆိုေပမယ့္အယူ
အဆမတူသူေတြပါ။ဒါေပမယ့္သူတို႔အယူအဆကိုသပ္သပ္ထားႏိုင္ၾကတယ္။ အဲဒီစာအုပ္ရဲ႕ေရွ႕မွာ
(ဦး)ေက်ာ္ၿငိမ္းကေတာင္အမွာၿပန္ေရးလိုက္ေသးတယ္။တကယ့္ကိုေကာင္းတဲ့စာအုပ္ပါ။အေၾကာင္းအရာ
ေတာ္ေတာ္မ်ားမ်ားကိုလည္းၿပန္ေတြ႕ရပါလိမ့္မယ္...လို႔ေၿပာခ်င္ပါတယ္။ဖတ္ၿဖစ္ေအာင္လည္းဖတ္ေစခ်င္
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မေနာ္ ေရ..
တို႕ဆီမလဲ... ဦးသိန္းေဖျမင့္ ေရးတဲ့ စာအုပ္တခ်ိဳ႕ရွိတယ္.. သူ႕စာေတြ ၾကိဳက္လြန္းလို႕...
ငယ္ငယ္ ထဲ က အထပ္ထပ္ ဖတ္ခဲ့ တာ...
အဏၰ၀ါခရီး သည္..အေရွ႕က ေန၀န္း... သပိတ္ေမွာက္ ေက်ာင္းသား..
တက္ဘုန္းၾကီး... ေက်ာ္ျငိမ္း....
သူ႕စာ အုပ္တိုင္း..အျမင္မေတာ္တဲ့ ကိစၥေတြ..ကြက္ကြက္ ကြင္းကြင္း.. ျပစ္ျပစ္ ႏွစ္ ႏွစ္ ေရးခဲ့ တာခ်ည္း ပဲ ေလ....
..ဒီကိစၥေတြ က လဲ..ေျပာ ရအေတာ္ ခက္ သကိုး.........သူ႕စာ အုပ္တိုင္းပါတဲ့... ျပည့္တန္ဆာ ဆိုတာမ်ိဳး ဆိုရင္..လဲ ..ဘုရားရွင္လက္ထက္ေတာ္ထဲ က...တရား၀င္ရွိေနခဲ့တဲ့...ကိစၥ ဆိုေတာ့......
အခုေခတ္သာဆိုရင္ တက္ဖုန္းၾကီး ကို စီစိေရးက တားထားလို႔ ထြက္လာေတာ့မွာ မဟုတ္ဘူးေနာ္ :P
ကၽြန္ေတာ္က ဆရာသိန္းေဖျမင့္ကို အေ႐ွ႕ကေန၀န္းထြက္သည့္ပမာ ကို အရင္ဖတ္ဖူးၿပီးမွ တျခားစာအုပ္ေတြ ဖတ္ျဖစ္တာပါ။ တက္ဘုန္းႀကီး ဖတ္မိေတာ့လည္း အဲဒီေခတ္က ေတာ္ေတာ္ေလး ပြက္ေလာ႐ိုက္ခဲ့တာဆိုတာ ဟုတ္မွာပဲလို႔ ေတြးမိပါတယ္။ ေက်ာ္ၿငိမ္းကေတာ့ ေတာ္ေတာ္ႀကိဳက္ပါတယ္။ ခံယူခ်က္ျခင္းမတူသူႏွစ္ေယာက္ရဲ႕ အခ်ိန္လြန္ေနာင္တေတြကို ဖတ္ရပါတယ္။ ဦးႏုေရးတဲ႔ တာေတစေနသား လည္း ေကာင္းပါတယ္။ ရွာလို႔ရရင္ ဖတ္ၾကည့္ေစခ်င္ပါတယ္။
အေရွ႕ကေန၀န္းကိုေမ့သြားတယ္။အေဟာင္းေတာ့အစ္ကို
ဆီမွာပဲရွိတယ္။ကိုယ့္ဆီမွာကစာအုပ္ေစ်းကၿပန္ထုတ္တာပဲ
ရွိတယ္။အရင္လိုမစံုေတာ့ဘူး။ေတာ္ေတာ္မ်ားမ်ားၿဖဳတ္ခံ
ထားရတယ္။
ဦးႏုရဲ႕တာေတစေနသားလည္းဖတ္ဖူးပါတယ္။ ကာမတဏွာ
ကေတာ့ခုထိဆံုးေအာင္မဖတ္ႏိုင္တဲ့စာအုပ္ထဲပါေနေသး
တယ္။
သိန္းေဖျမင့္ရဲ ့သတၱိကုိေတာ့ ခ်ီးက်ဴးပါတယ္။
စာေရးဆရာႀကီး သိန္းေဖျမင့္ ေရးတဲ့စာအုပ္ေတြကို သေဘာက်မိပါတယ္။ အေ႐ွ႕က ေန၀န္းထြက္သည့္ပမာ စာအုပ္ကိုေတာ့ ၀ယ္သိမ္းထားဖူးတယ္။
ရင္ေမာတယ္။
အားလံုးဖတ္ခ်င္တာပဲသိတယ္
မဖတ္ဘူးေသးပါဘူးမေနာ္ေရ .. အမေျပာလို႕ ရွာဖတ္ၾကည့္ပါဦးမယ္ .. း)
အစ္မေရ .... ဦးသိန္းေဖျမင္႔ရဲ႕ အေ႐ွ႕က ေန၀န္းထြက္သည့္ပမာ ကိုေတာ႔ ဖတ္ဖူူးပါတယ္ ... ဂဠဳန္ဦးေစာကို ႏိိုင္ငံေရးနဲ႕ စီးပြားေရးတြဲလုပ္ရင္းခ်မ္းသာလာတာလို႕ေရးထားတာ အၾကိဳက္ဆံုးစာသားပဲ ...။ အခုလည္း ဒီလို ဂဠဳန္ေတြ အမ်ားသားမဟုတ္လား .... :)
တက္ဘုန္းၾကီးစာအုပ္လည္း ႀကံဳတဲ႔အခါဖတ္ၾကည္႕ပါဦးမယ္ ....။
ေက်းဇူးတင္ပါတယ္....။
အဲဒီစာအုပ္ေတြ မဖတ္ဖူးေသးဘူး။ ဖတ္ခ်င္တယ္..း)
မိုးေန
တက္ဘုန္းၾကီး ဖတ္ျပီး ဟုတ္ခ်င္မွ ဟုတ္မွာပါေလ လို႕ ေတြးခဲ့ဖူးတာခ်င္းတူပါတယ္...။
ဆရာသိန္းေဖျမင့္ေတာ့ ငရဲၾကီးေတာ့မယ္လို႕လည္း စိုးရိမ္ဖူးေသးတယ္..။
Only those who are mad read Tat Bone Kyi, No wise men and gentle one read it as No read knowledge and truth cannot got by reading that book. If someone read it, she or he might be---------------. I do not believe what happened in the books. It might be the thinking of writer. We all cannot conclude that it is really happening by seeing small mistake. Remember that there are a lot who are good, It is nature that if there is good, then there is bad.
It is surprising to me as you read Tat Bone Ky, which is full of nonsense. It is bound to sure that No real knowledge cannot be got through reading it. One thing is sure that we can think of the value of the reader of that book and the integrity of such a person.
ဟုတ္နို္င္ မဟုတ္နိုင္ဆုိတာ လူျကီးသူမေတြကို ေမးသာျကည့္ေတာ့ေပါ့။ အိမ္က အေမေျပာတာျကားဖူးတာကေတာ့ သူတို့ ေခတ္တုန္းက အစိုးရက သာသနာေတာ္ေဆးတယ္ ဆိုျပီးေတာင္လုပ္တယ္တဲ့။ ဘုန္းျကီးေတြကို ဖမ္းတာေပါ့။ ကိုယ္လဲ အဲ့ဒီေခတ္တုန္းက မေမြးေသးလို့ ေသခ်ာေတာ့မသိဘူး။ ေျပာသံျကားတာပဲ။
No knowledgeable person accept anything by hearsay. We all human beings are the most powerful men in the world, the most powerful in the sense that we can reason anything wheather it is true or false. All i am trying to say is for you, as the writer of this post is supporting what Thein Phay Myint said. That means the writer of this post totally agrees with the idea of the writer of Tanbonekyi. Agreeing the view of author of Tat Bone Kyi means he or she criticizes all the Than Gar, or the real term Sangha, not only in myanmar and the Than Gar in the world as well. As I told you earlier that in any association, if there is bad, then there is good. But By looking at small aspect of mistake in the SanGha, the writer of this post agrees the idea of Tat Bone Kyi. By doing so, the writer of this post criticizes all the monks, SanGha. In other word, she means that All the monks are the same as the monk in the book of Tatbonekyi. I am pity to the writer of this post. She has committed very big mistkes which can cause her to go to hell. Unless she apologize all the Sangha, monks, she will surely go to the hell or suffer from suffering at this present by the resulting of criticizing of SanGha, monk. You need to study more, to know more about Sanghas, or about the world.
HaHa,So Pitiful Ju and others who back this post. you like criticizing others, but you have being criticized by others. You,a blogger like praising but hating saying of what it is true. It is the nature of woman, so funny matter. It is my right that i have comment what I think. I have already this news and the name of this blog to all the monks living in myanmar and abroad. They are feeling as i feel. Take your responsibility by yourself. i wanna see you outside and i wanna know what kind of girl you are and what kind of your friends are.
mgwaimintun: Take care, you will beinsulted more. This news has been supread all over the world.
23 Jan 09, 11:48
mgwaimintun: what is your purpose of posting? Is the purpose of posting to talk gossip? Is that your job?
23 Jan 09, 11:46
mgwaimintun: without understanding of foundation of Buddha's teaching, Sangha, Dhamma, you such guy criticize us.
23 Jan 09, 11:45
mgwaimintun: Hi, Pity guy, Remember that because you are criticizing monks, I am criticizing you, that is the result of what you have done.
I am sorry to write in English ...
I want to tell Wai Min Tun to value one's freedom ...
I don't know whether you are a monk or not ...
That doesn't even a matter.
Just one thing, your logic is so funny ...
Everyone who reads this book is not good ....!!! hahaha....
How irrelevant thought !
And you told some other funny words again..
It is the nature of woman, so funny matter. It is my right that i have comment what I think.
Then one question for you,
do yo think you only have your right to comment what you think ... , how about the others ....?
I value the pure and noble Sangha.
But not all ....
If I said so, I could be go to hell also ...haha... according to your way of thinking ...
If we all go to hell, please not to follow us .... :)
To Anonymous, I do not know who you are, you are worker or student or boy or girl,----------------. My final word for all of you is that if you wanna like Tat Bone Kyi, You all be girls in that book's story, and let us be monks in the story of that book. If the chance favors, i wanna meet all of you because i wanna say just one word---------.But it is impossible for me now as i am studying at foreign country. Hi, all of guys, if you have sisters, prevent them from associating with monks, if not, they will do your sisters as in Tat Bone Kyi's book.
I am a Software Engineer ...
And a real man ...
Not a hypocrite as the rude guy ...
I didn't mention I agree or disagree the book ...
If you are a monk and told such rude things .... , .. I have no words to say...
It is your standard ...of thinking ....
.... So rude .. so rude ..., need to polite first in comment ...
It is just a waste of time arguing with the rude one...
If you want to present logically, there will be more positive support .... for you ....
Otherwise, just by saying monologue thing ... , no points ...nothing but useless...
I agree there are so many good monks ...
But I also agree there can be some monks ... that didn't follow the Dhamma....
That thing is clear...
Buddhism tends to purify the mind
and train the mind to be polite ...
No need to cover the bad thing,
I never never say , all monks are bad .... and ... one suggestion for you is to polite in comment ...
That's all ...
May you be peaceful ...
To very gentle man Anonymous,
If you say that i am very rude, it might be true because i became rude only after reading this post.So thank you and writer of this post for making me rude, and It might be an intention of this poster to give false theory which makes many people to think all monks as bad. Perhaps, the reason why she posted this one is that she or her followers, including Anonymous have been treated by so called bad monks as did in the book of Tat Bone Kyi. You said that some monks are bad, and they do not follow the teachings of the Buddha, I think that you might have seen these monks sleeping with your sisters or relatives. If you have seen such a case or such matter has happened in your family or in the family of the writer of this post, It is fair to say that some monks are not good. You say that i should be polite to commend in the post. This blogger criticized monks first , so i criticized her only after she did, I think this is action and reaction and it might fair, If you wanna monks like Tat Bone Kyi, tell me openly, I will send some monks, or if you are dying to want monks like Tat Bone Kyi, I myself can be like Tat Bone Kyi, You don't need to give money, Give only yours or her, Ok, tell me the date to come.
အပ်က္အပ်က္နဲ႕ႏွာေခါင္းေသြးထြက္ ျဖစ္မွာစိုးတာနဲ႔ ထပ္ေရးလိုက္ပါတယ္ဗ်ာ ...။
ေလးေလးနက္နက္ ေဆြးေႏြးခ်င္ရင္ေတာ႔ ဆဲဆိုရိုင္းျပတာမ်ိဳးမလုပ္ဘဲ အက်ိဳးသင္႔ အေၾကာင္းသင္႔ .... အေျဖတစ္ခုထြက္တဲ႔ အထိ ေဆြးေႏြးလို႕ရပါတယ္ ....။
မေနာ္ဟရီ နဲ႕ လူခ်င္းခင္မင္မႈမရိွသလို ... follower လဲမဟုတ္ပါဘူး ...။
အဲဒီ post ကို ၃၊၄ ၾကိမ္ထက္မနည္းဖတ္ၿပီးပါၿပီ ....
ဘယ္စာေၾကာင္းက တက္ဘုန္းၾကီးစာအုပ္မွာပါတဲ႔ အယူအဆ အားလံုးကို ေထာက္ခံလိုက္မွန္း ရွာမေတြ ႔ပါ ...။
တကယ္လုိ႕ ဆရာသိန္းေဖျမင္႔ က သံဃာေတြကို အၾကည္အညိဳပ်က္ေအာင္ ရည္ရြယ္ၿပီးေရးခဲ႕တာဆိုရင္လည္း သူ႕ အကုသိုလ္နဲ႔ သူသြားမွာပါ ...။ ကြ်န္ေတာ္တို႕ ၀င္ၿပီးပူပန္ေပးေနစရာမလိုပါဘူး ....။
မေနာ္ဟရီလည္း သံဃာေတြကို အထင္ေသးသြားေအာင္ ဒီ post ကို ေရးတာဆိုရင္ သူ႕ အကုသိုလ္နဲ႔သူသြားပါလိမ္႔မယ္ ...။
အေရးၾကီးတာက ေ၀ဖန္ေထာက္ျပတဲ႔သူဆိုတာ အက်ိဳးသင္႔ အေၾကာင္းသင္႕ ... ဘယ္စာေၾကာင္းက ဘယ္လို အဓိပၸါယ္သက္ေရာက္တယ္ လို႕ ေထာက္ျပဖို႕ပါပဲ ....။
ကိုယ္စိတ္ အေျခခံမွာ က တက္ဘုန္းၾကီးကို မုန္းေနၿပီးသားျဖစ္ေနလို႕ ... ဒီစာအုပ္နဲ႔ပက္သတ္ၿပီး ဘာေျပာေျပာ အမွားေတြပဲဆိုရင္ေတာ႕ .... ဆက္ေဆြးေႏြးစရာမလိုအပ္ေတာ႔ပါဘူး ....။
ရဟန္းပံု icon တင္ၿပီး ... ေတြ႕သမွ်လူ ေကာ္ဆဲေနေတာ႔ ... တကယ္ေဆြးေႏြးေထာက္ျပခ်င္တာလား ....ဒီလို ရိုင္းျပခ်င္ရုံသက္သက္လားေတြးမရပါ ....။ ဒီလို ရိုင္းျပေနရင္ သံဃာေတြ ကိုတကယ္ သိကၡာက်ေအာင္ လုပ္ေနသူက mgwaimintun ပဲျဖစ္ေနမွာပါ ..။
ယဥ္ေက်းတဲ႔ အသိုင္းအ၀န္းမွာ ရုိင္းစိုင္းမႈ ဟာ အၾကမ္းဖက္၀ါဒပါပဲ ...။
ဗုဒၶျမတ္စြာရဲ႕ အဆံုးအမ အတိုင္း သင္၏ ဆဲေရးတိုင္းထြာမႈကို လက္မခံေၾကာင္း ေျပာလုိက္ပါရေစဗ်ာ ...
တကယ္တမ္းသံဃာေတြကို ကာကြယ္ခ်င္တယ္ဆိုတယ္ဆိုရင္ေတာ႔ ေလးေလးစားစားေျပာပါ ....။
ဆရာေတာ္ ဦးေဇာတိက ရဲ႕ စကားေလးတစ္ခြန္းနဲ႔ပဲ အဆံုးသတ္လိုက္ပါရေစ .... မွ်တတဲ႔ သေဘာထား ရိွရင္ မွန္ကန္တဲ႔ အေျဖ ရပါတယ္
Sorry only Dakataw Anonymous, and Sorry again that I could not write in Burmese as you did as i do not know how to type burmese fonts. As a matter of fact, i am a monk doing my PhD at foreign country, I like reading very much, and I am a just reader. Being a reader of all writers, I read and encourage those who write. Unfortunately, one day, I came across this post,posted by Manorhary. I read her article of Tat Bone Kyi. Just after reading her, big angry arises in my mind, that is why i criticized her hotly, later her readers because i think that they support her and if my thinking is wrong, Sorry those reader except Manorhary. You all might not know that this book created a lot of problems in the pas years and this book made the monks who live peacefully sad and worry. When this book appeared, Old-age monks who are endowed with Sila, virtue, Samadhi, concentration, and Panna wisdom used to cry. You might know why they cried. Even nowadays, this book is bitterly prohibited to publish. Majority parts of that book are dirty, about sexual misconducts. I cannot think why such ladies wanna read such a book. Just after reading this post, I took telephone some and asked who is Manorhary and what her job is, and i really want to know whether she is a Buddhist or Christ or something. If she belongs to another religion, she must be punished in a legal way and if she is a Buddhist, she must apologize officially in her post. Unless she does, We, all monks, never forgive her. Dakataw Anonymous, read it again, you will understand the aim of her. I think she should be deserved what she has done. Dakataw, I will go back Myanmar at Feb, I will solve this problem to be an end. Unless she does the apology until Feb, i must meet some in the religious affairs and some who have authority. We monks, never be patient her actions and she is a second Thein Phay Myint and she is one who makes all monk who live peacefully anger and sad, she is the one who make us to remember the bitter past history. In long history Buddha Sasana, meaning Buddhist dispensation, those who are belong to communist wanted to up fire to Shedagone Pagoda, Thein Phay Myint is one of them. If Manorhary has such idea, she is dangerous one. If she is not a Buddhist and if she has such idea, she is more dangerous one for burmese people and for Buddhism and Buddhist people. With Metta, U Zin.
Sorry only Dakataw Anonymous,
and Sorry again that I could not write in Burmese as you did as i do not know how to type burmese fonts. As a matter of fact, i am a monk doing my PhD at foreign country, I like reading very much, and I am a just reader. Being a reader of all writers, I read and encourage those who write. Unfortunately, one day, I came across this post,posted by Manorhary. I read her article of Tat Bone Kyi. Just after reading her, big angry arises in my mind, that is why i criticized her hotly, later her readers because i think that they support her and if my thinking is wrong, Sorry those reader except Manorhary.
You all might not know that this book created a lot of problems in the pas years and this book made the monks who live peacefully sad and worry.
When this book appeared, Old-age monks who are endowed with Sila, virtue, Samadhi, concentration, and Panna wisdom used to cry.
You might know why they cried. Even nowadays, this book is bitterly prohibited to publish. Majority parts of that book are dirty, about sexual misconducts.
I cannot think why such ladies wanna read such a book. Just after reading this post, I took telephone some of my friends and asked who is Manorhary and what her job is, and i really want to know whether she is a Buddhist or Christ or something.
If she belongs to another religion, she must be punished in a legal way and if she is a Buddhist, she must apologize officially in her post. Unless she does, We, all monks, never forgive her.
Dakataw Anonymous, read it again, you will understand the aim of her.
I think she should be deserved with punishment what she has done.
Dakataw, I will go back Myanmar at Feb, I will solve this problem to be an end. Unless she does the apology until Feb, i must meet some in the religious affairs and some who have authority. We monks, never be patient her actions and she is a second thein Phay Myint, in some aspect, who has negativity on Monks. and she is one who makes all monk who live peacefully anger and sad, she is the one who make us to remember the bitter past history. In long history Buddha Sasana, meaning Buddhist dispensation, those who are belong to communist wanted to put up fire to the Shedagone Pagoda.
If Manorhary has such idea, she is dangerous one. If she is not a Buddhist and but she has such idea, she is more dangerous one for burmese people and for Buddhism and Buddhist people.
With Metta, U Zin.
ဖတ္လည္းၿပီးေရာ..သက္ၿပင္းခပ္ၾကီးၾကီးကိုခ်ရင္း..အရင္တည္းကဒီလိုေတြတကယ္ရွိခဲ့တာကိုး..
လို႔ေတြးၿပီးအရင္ကလက္မခံခ်င္ခဲ့တာဘာလို႔လဲလို႔ကိုယ့္ကိုယ္ကိုၿပန္ေမးၾကည့္တယ္။အေၿဖလည္း
မထြက္ဘူး။မထြက္ခ်င္ေယာင္ေဆာင္ေနတာလည္းၿဖစ္ႏိုင္တယ္။ း)
ခုေခတ္မွာလည္းၾကားေနၿမင္ေနရတာပဲ။ ၉၃ တုန္းကဆံုးေအာင္မဖတ္ပဲၿပန္ခ်လိုက္ရတဲ့အေၾကာင္း
ကိုေတာ့သတိရေနတယ္။၁၉၉၀မွာ သထံုၿမသပိတ္ေတာင္မွာအၾကာၾကီးေနခဲ့ဘူးတယ္။အဲဒီမွာ...
တက္ဘုန္းၾကီးထဲကလိုဇာတ္လမ္းမ်ိဳးၾကီးကိုမ်က္ၿမင္ကိုယ္ေတြ႕ၾကီးေတြ႕ ခဲ့ရတာ။ အစကေတာ့
ကိုယ္လည္းမဟုတ္ေလာက္ပါဘူးေတြေတြးၿပီးမ်က္စိစံုမွိတ္ၿငင္းခ်င္ေသးတာ။ေနာက္က်ေတာ့..
တကယ့္ကိုအတိအလင္းယူသြားၾကေလသတည္းဆိုေတာ့မွ...ဘုရားေတြဘာေတြသူတို႔ကို္ယ္စား
တ'ၿပီးမသိသလိုအဲဒါၾကီးကိုေမ့ပစ္လိုက္ကာစမို႔ေလ....။
Dakataw, read this carefully.
အဲဒီစာအုပ္ရဲ႕ေရွ႕မွာ
(ဦး)ေက်ာ္ၿငိမ္းကေတာင္အမွာၿပန္ေရးလိုက္ေသးတယ္။တကယ့္ကိုေကာင္းတဲ့စာအုပ္ပါ။အေၾကာင္းအရာ
ေတာ္ေတာ္မ်ားမ်ားကိုလည္းၿပန္ေတြ႕ရပါလိမ့္မယ္...လို႔ေၿပာခ်င္ပါတယ္။ဖတ္ၿဖစ္ေအာင္လည္းဖတ္ေစခ်င္
လို႔ပါ။
Dakataw Read this.
အေၾကာင္းစံုသိရရေတာ႔လည္း ဦးဇင္းကို စာနာမိပါတယ္ ....။ ဘာပဲျဖစ္ျဖစ္ အေၾကာင္းအရာတစ္ခုကို ရွဳေထာင္႕အမ်ိဳးမ်ိဳးကျမင္ၾကတယ္ ...။ သာသနာေတာ္ ဘက္က ရပ္တည္ၿပီး ေျပာမယ္၊လုပ္မယ္ဆိုတာ မြန္ျမတ္တဲ႔ရပ္တည္ခ်က္ပါ ...။
တစ္ခါတစ္ေလလည္း ... ေစတနာဆိုးေတြနဲ႔ ေရးလိုက္တာေတြကိုဖတ္ရတဲ႔ အခါ ... တပည္႕ေတာ္ကိုယ္တိုင္လည္း မၾကိဳက္ပါဘူး ...။
မဟုတ္မွန္းေသခ်ာေနတာေတြကို လိုက္ေျဖရွင္းေနရင္လည္း ဘ၀တုိတိုေလးကမေလာက္ငျပန္ဘူး ဦးဇင္းေရ ...။
မေနာ္ဟရီက Christian တစ္ေယာက္ျဖစ္ပါတယ္ ....။ ဒါေပမယ္႔ ေရးထားတဲ႔ post ေတြ အရ ... သူဟာ ဘာသာေရး ပုတ္ခတ္ေျပာဆိုတတ္တဲ႔သူ မဟုတ္ဘူးလို႕ထင္မိပါတယ္ ...။ တကယ္တမ္းသာ သူတက္ဘုန္းၾကီးစာအုပ္ကို လူတိုင္းေဆာင္ထားရမယ္႔စာအုပ္ လို႕ေရးခဲ႔ရင္ေတာ႕ တပည္႕ေတာ္ကိုယ္တုိင္ ေ၀ဖန္ဖို႕၀န္မေလးပါဘူး ...။
အရွင္ဇနကာဘိ၀ံသရဲ႕ မဟာဂႏၶာရုံေက်ာင္းလို စာသင္တိုက္တိုင္းစည္းကမ္းေသ၀ပ္ၿပီး ... ၀ိနည္းကိုေလးစားၾကရင္ ... ဒီလို တက္ဘုန္းၾကီး စာအုပ္မ်ိဳးထြက္လာစရာအေၾကာင္းကို မရိွပါဘူး ...။ ေရးလည္းေရးရဲမယ္မထင္ပါဘူး ဦးဇင္းေရ ..။
သာသနာေတာ္ကို ညိွဳးႏြမ္းေအာင္လုပ္တဲ႔ သကၤန္း၀တ္တစ္ခ်ိဳ႕ေတြေၾကာင္႔ သံဃာထုတစ္ရပ္လံုး ထိခိုက္နစ္နာၾကရတာပါ ...။
ဒီအေၾကာင္းအရာေတြကို ေရးလည္းမေရးခ်င္ဘူး ဦးဇင္းေရ ....။
ခင္ပြန္းၾကီးဆယ္ပါးကို ဘယ္သူေတာ္ေကာင္းကမွ ျပစ္မွားမွာမဟုတ္ပါဘူး ...။
အယူအဆမွားတစ္ခုက ကိုယ္႕ဆီမွာ လမ္းဆံုးသြားရမယ္လို႕ ဆရာေတာ္ ဦးေဇာတိက က မိန္႔ဖူးပါတယ္ ...။
အမွားကို လက္ဆင္႔ကမ္းတာမ်ိဳးမျဖစ္သင္႔ပါဘူး ....။
ႈတပည္႔ေတာ္ကေတာ႔ ... တက္ဘုန္းၾကီး အယူအဆကို ျပန္တြန္းလွန္တာကိုလက္ခံပါတယ္ ...။ အယူအဆ နဲ႔ လူနဲ႔ကို ကြဲကြဲျပားျပား ေျဖရွင္းသင္႔တယ္လို႕ယူဆပါတယ္ ဦးဇင္းေရ ..။
တပည္႕ေတာ္ အေနနဲ႔ေတာ႔ ... ဦးဇင္းကို ေျပာမွားဆိုမွား ျဖစ္မိရင္ေတာင္းပန္တဲ႔ အေနနဲ႔ ဒီ comment ကို ေရးလိုက္တာပါ ...။
တပည္႕ေတာ္ အျမင္ကေတာ႕ မေနာ္ဟရီ က similar events ကုိ သံုးသပ္တယ္လို႕ပဲနားလည္ပါတယ္ ...။ statement ကို လက္ခံတယ္၊ လက္မခံဘူး လို႕မျမင္မိပါဘူး ...။ တကယ္လို႕ statement ကို လက္ခံတယ္ ဆိုရင္ေတာင္ သူ႕ရဲ႕ လြတ္လပ္ခြင္႔ပဲျဖစ္တယ္လို႕ ယူဆပါတယ္ ...။ တကယ္လို႕ သူက သူယံုၾကည္တဲ႔ concept ကို ၀ါဒျဖန္႕ေနတယ္ဆိုရင္ေတာ႕ ... သူ႕ဘက္က အလြန္ျဖစ္တယ္လို႕ တပည္႕ေတာ္ယူဆမိမွာပါ ...။ ဦးေက်ာ္ၿငိမ္းက သူ႕ဘာသာေထာက္ခံတာပါ ...။
ေစတနာကပဲ ကံျဖစ္လာမွာပါ ..။ ဘာသာ၊သာသနာ ညိွဳးႏြမ္းေအာင္ဆိုတဲ႔ ရည္ရြယ္ခ်က္နဲ႔ လုပ္သမွ်ဟာ ေစတနာဆိုး အက်ိဳးေပးမွာပါပဲ ...
ဦးဇင္းအေနနဲ႔ မေနာ္ဟရီ နဲ႔ ဆက္သြယ္ၿပီး ... သူဘယ္လိုရည္ရြယ္ခ်က္နဲ႔ေရးတယ္ဆိုတာကို ေအးေအးေဆးေဆး ေမးျမန္းၿပီး ... ေဆြးေႏြးၾကည္႕ေစခ်င္ပါတယ္ ...။
တပည္႕ေတာ္ ကိုယ္တုိင္လည္း blog လုပ္ဖူးတာမလို႕ ... comments ေတြကို banned ခ်င္ရင္ blogger အတြက္က လြယ္လြယ္ေလးဆိုတာသိပါတယ္ ...။ ဦးဇင္းရဲ႕ comment ေတြကို မဖ်က္ပစ္တာဟာ ... ဦးဇင္းရဲ႕ လြတ္လပ္ခြင္႕ကို သူတန္ဖိုးထားရာေရာက္ပါတယ္ ...။
အျမင္မတူေပမယ္႕ တစ္ေယာက္ရဲ႕ လြတ္လပ္ခြင္႕ကို တစ္ေယာက္ ကေလးစားမယ္ဆိုရင္ ဘယ္သူမဆို ေဆြးေႏြးလုိ႕ ရမွာပါ ...။
တပည္႕ေတာ္ကေတာ႕ negotiator သက္သက္ပါပဲ ...။ မျမင္ဖူး၊ မေတြ႕ဖူးၾကေပမယ္႕ ... အမွန္တရားနဲ႕လြတ္လပ္မႈကို ျမတ္ႏိုးလို႕ comment ေတြထဲမွာ၀င္ပါမိတာပါ ...။
တပည္႕ေတာ္အျမင္ကိုလည္းေျပာျပၿပီးၿပီ မို႕လို႕ ... ေနာက္ထပ္ comment ထပ္ေရးမွာမဟုတ္ေတာ႔ပါဘူး ...။
တပည္႕ေတာ္ အၾကိဳက္ဆံုး အဆံုးအမတစ္ခုနဲ႔ပဲ အဆံုးသတ္လိုက္ပါရေစ ...
ခႏၲီ တေပါ တိတိကၡာ ။
Thank you Dakamakyi,
I do not know exactly how you understand the meaning of Khanti Paraman Titikkha. Do you know the proper meaning of it?
As we will never forget this and we will never forgive her as well.
But bear in your mind that we do have the responsibilities to protect our Sasana and our religion at any rate. Being a Christian, she has no more chance to say about our religion.
I have already decided to say about this news and about this blogger when I go back myanmar.
We cannot look at this matter by standing and folding our hands. We cannot keep patient always as we are ordinary beings. If she has braveness to meet us, we are ready.
Let me say all who commented and readers in this post that do not believe what the poster said is true. I trust in you that you all have proper knowledge and proper wisdom, so you can judge anything by using your own wisdom.
Use your brain to think deeply any matters as they truly are,
Do not let your brain be dustbin.
OK - Mg Wai Min Tun or whoever, you stupid dummy, you better go to Vertican City or Mekka and tell what you believe, if you dare to go there. Don't go back to Burma (not Myanmar). (I know who you are - because you said Myanmar)
When the military junta beat and killed Buddhist monks in 2007, where are you? And what did you say? Did you say anything about that, you stupid dummy? Hah Hah.
Now you want to be a hero of Buddhism. You are so pathetic. You don't know what you are doing. You are attacking a poor lady.
Try this - attack the military junta by all means if you want to do so.
And you better stay away from blogosphere, you so so stupid dummy. In blogsphere, we will make you dust.
To so-called Mg Wai Min Tun - one more thing, leave your e-mail, i will give you my e-mail.
If you have your responsibilities to protect your Sasana and your religion at any rate, why didn't you do anything when the military regime killed the Buddhist monks.
Why you didn't decide to say about the news of Burmese military government while you were out of Burma.
Can you look at this matter by standing and folding your hands?
For sure, we all have brain except you, stupid dummy.
To son of bitch, and mother fucker Bamathar,
I do want to argue with you, i have no more desires to talk with respect to this post.
If you have desire to meet us, we welcome you to just discuss at 26 feb, in myanmar. I do not mind, if you give your address and mail address.
We do not want to rude, let me say again, do not make us rude more than that.
We have already made up our mind to discuss with some authorities in government if such blogger is allowed to write such things. After this, we all clearly know who is wrong.
Let me say again, if you are rude, we will be rude even we are monks.
to stupid Mg Wai Min Tun -
ေဟ့ေကာင္ ဘုန္းၾကီးအတုရဲ႕
မင္း ငါေမြးမွ ငါ့သားလာက္ပဲ ရွိဦးမယ္
ငါ dummy ပဲ ေျပာတာ မဆဲဘူး
မင့္ ပေထြးေတြသြားတိုင္ခ်င္တယ္ဟုတ္
မင္းလည္း ဘုန္းၾကီးေတြကို ရန္ကုန္ျမိဳ႕ လမ္းလယ္ေခါင္မွာ ေသနတ္နဲ႕ ပစ္ နံပတ္တုတ္နဲ့ရိုက္တဲ့ တိရိစၦာန္ေတြနဲ႕ အတူတူပဲ မဟုတ္လား
ပါးစပ္က သာသနာေလွ်ာက္ေျပာျပီး မင္းပါးစပ္ကေတာ့ ငါနဲ႕ ဆဲေနတယ္ ဗုဒၶက အဲလို မသင္ၾကားခဲ့ဖူးကြ
မင္းတို႕လို သဃၤန္းအေရျခံဳျပီး သာသနာကို ညွိဳးႏြမ္းေအာင္ လုပ္ေနတဲ့ ဘုန္းၾကီးတုေတြသာ ဆဲတာကြ
မဟုတ္မလြဲေရာ authorities ေတြဆိုတာ မင့္ အေမလင္ေတြ မဟုတ္လား
မင့္ လိပ္စာေပးေလ ငါ လာခဲ့မယ္ ေဟ့ေကာင္
ငါလည္း ၀င္ဒါမီယာမွာ ၾကီးလာတဲ့ေကာင္ကြ
မင္းကိုငါ ကားနဲ႕ တိုက္သတ္မယ္ - ဟီးဟီး
ျပီးရင္ မင္းေျပာေနတဲ့ authorities ေတြကိုပဲ ၂ သိန္း ၃ သိန္းေလာက္ေပးျပီး မင့္ အေလာင္းကို အင္းယားကန္ထဲ ေျမွာခိုင္းလိုက္ဦးမယ္ ဟီးဟီး
ေဒါသေတြထြက္ျပီး ကိုယ့္ေခါင္းနဲ႕ နံရံနဲ႕လည္း သြားမေဆာင့္ ေနနဲ႕ဦး ကတံုးအတုေတြက ပိုကြဲတတ္တယ္ ဟီးဟီး
စိတ္ေလွ်ာ့ စိတ္ေလွ်ာ့
တရာနဲ႕ ေျဖေပါ့ကြာ ဟီးဟီး
မေျဖႏိုင္ရင္လည္း အရက္ေလးဘာေလးေသာက္လိုက္
စပါးလံုး တေထာက္ေတာ့ ေသာက္လို႕ရပါတယ္
လင္ပန္းနဲ႕ ထည့္ေသာက္
ဒါမွ မဟုတ္လည္း ႏိုက္ကလပ္ေလးဘာေလး သြားတက္ေပါ့ကြာ
ဒါမွ အဆင္မေျပေသးရင္လည္း မင္းေျပာေနတဲ့ authorities ေတြကိုယ္တိုင္ ဖြင့္ထားတဲ့ အႏွိပ္ခန္းေတြ ရန္ကုန္မွာ အျပည့္ပဲ အဲမွာ သြားျပီး အပမ္းေျဖလိုက္ဦး
ျပီးေတာ့မွ တရားထိုင္ေပါ့ အခ်ိန္ေတြ အမ်ားၾကီးရွိေသးတာပဲ မင္းမေသခင္ သာသနာၾကီးကို ကာကြယ္လို႕ ရပါေသးတယ္ ဟီးဟီး
ေလးစားပါတယ္ကြာ
ျငင္းရင္းနဲ႕ ႏွပ္ေခ်းေတြလည္း ထြက္လာဦးမယ္ ဟီးဟီး
to Mg Wai Min Tun -
ေျပာဖို႕ ေမ့သြားလို႕ ဘုန္းၾကီးအတုေရ
သီရိလကၤာလိုႏိုင္ငံမ်ိဳးမွာ မင္း PhD မကလို႕ XhD YhD ZhD ေတြ ယူခဲ့ဦး မင္းဟာ ဗုဒၶရဲ႕ သင္ၾကားမႈေတြကို ကၾကီးတလံုးေတာင္ မတတ္မယ့္ ေကာင္မွန္း မင္းေရးေနတဲ့ စာကို ဖတ္လိုက္ရင္ သိပါတယ္ကြာ
မင့္ အဂၤလိပ္စာ အေရးအသား ဖတ္လိုက္တာနဲ႕ မင့္ အရည္အခ်င္းကို ခန္႕မွန္းလို႕ရပါတယ္
မင့္လိပ္စာ ငါ့ကိုေပးထားဦးေဟ့
ငါမအားရင္ မင္းေျပာေနတဲ့ authorities ေတြကို ေငြ ၂ သိန္း ေလာက္ေပးျပီး မင္းကို ကားနဲ႕ တိုက္ခိုင္းမလို႕ ဟီးဟီး
ေအာ္ ေနာက္ျပီး မင္း ဗမာျပည္ကို ျပန္ရင္ ေလယာဥ္ေတြ သေဘၤာေတြ ကားေတြ မီးရထားေတြ မစီးနဲ႕ေပါ့ကြာ စ်ာန္နဲ႕သာပ်ံသြားလိုက္ ဟီးဟီး
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